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“Using mostly news reports, Moral Compass pokes fun at the delusional claims by people of faith that a belief in God equips them with superior moral standards.”
I found interesting the content of the above for three very significant reasons.
The statement avers “Poking fun,” a claim which for the content of the site is questionable.Contemptuous sarcasm in the form of “Righteous indignation,” is more truthful in my view.
Using the phrase “Delusional claims,” does not take into consideration lies which we are all subject to performing, the proprietor of this site also having opportunity of engaging in. I am not saying that Terry who I presume is the proprietor is purposely lying, however, proverbs 10:12 and 10:13 are probably apt descriptors. I am not even suggesting Terry does not believe himself justified, it is just that the fail I see most evident here is one of omission.
From your own site, I take the words of Thomas Paine:
“ It is impossible to calculate the moral mischief that mental lying has produced in society. When man has so far corrupted and prostituted the chastity of his mind, as to subscribe his professional belief to things he does not believe, he has prepared himself for the commission of every other crime.” — Thomas Paine
Thomas Paine speaks of the “Chastity of mind.” It’s violation is on of continuing degradation, and a vehicle of moral mischief and the commission of crimes of the worst sort. I believe that this truly is what is the opportunity here. You, as well those you profile on this site, are all guilty of the same thing. A gross violation of the “Chastity of the mind.”
I include also your select quote of Thomas Jefferson:
“It does me no injury for my neighbor to say there are 20 gods or no god. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.” — Thomas Jefferson
Thomas Jefferson also said, “
“Question with boldness even the existence of a god; because if there be one he must approve of the homage of reason more than that of blindfolded fear.”
-Thomas Jefferson, letter to Peter Carr, August 10, 1787
Broken down into its elements, that is not such remarkable statement as first might be thought. Jefferson literally said God (Should He exist,) must approve of the homage of reason…”
Couple that with the following words of Jefferson:
“ I am a real Christian, that is to say, a disciple of the doctrines of Jesus, very different from the Platonists, who call me infidel, and themselves Christians and preachers of the gospel, while they draw all their characteristic dogmas from what it’s Author never said nor saw.” Jefferson to Charles Thomson, January, 1816
In this, nineteen years after his words to Peter Carr, Jefferson sets himself knowingly apart as a “Master of his own mind,” taking upon himself to deny what the person of the Christ whom he obviously approved, is recorded as saying. That affirmation of the person of Christ is found in the words of the Pharisees, Jesus Himself, and the witnesses against Him as He hung on the cross. It is just that Mr. jefferson could not bring himself to accept the record of the scripture, leading to his little cut and paste book.
That was not the only time Jefferson alluded to himself as being a “Christian.” He did so very plainly in a letter to Benjamin Rush in April, 1803.
He was by self description to Ezra Stiles Ely on June 25th of 1819, “I am of a sect by myself, as far as I know.” In the same letter he approved the morality of jesus as being “Most sublime,” (suggesting they were not to be exceeded by any other).
Given the above, while it may not be said you are purposely lying, you are neglecting to properly inform your hearers of the larger picture that would seem to overwhelm your observations.
Man is guilty of every violation. Men even kill in the name of God, thinking they are doing God service. That is not to say that His being the required object of our affection may be dismissed. It does require us to quietly contemplate that our “Moral compass,” has been defined by the very one against whom we may exercise no power. Should we choose to conform to it or not is a decision left to ourselves, bearing in mind the rewards or punishments either in this life or the life to come, are subject to our faithful attendance or lack of it to the will of God for all humanity.
I would not go so far as to say you are delusional. I would say you are misinformed and as a result capable of being both deceived and a deceiver.
Gods moral standards are superior, not man’s. The evidence of that is found in the Christ whom Jefferson approved, yet somehow was unable to grasp the significance of. That I attribute to the foolish heart of a man, capable of every wickedness, yet a notable founder of our nation.
Only God knows that heart, and as such shall Jefferson be judged as well yourself.
Sir, very interesting. .I agree a lot with what you say. But may I shed some more light on these topics. Though I agree as a minister myself that most so called Christians are hypocrites. In fact, I talk a lot about this every week on the radio and I dont like even calling myself a christian anymore just because that word is so overused. EVERYONE is a Christian these days even the prostitutes on the streets. Here’s the real problem; most Christians are NOT being Christians and furthermore, just beleiving in God and going to church doesnt make you a Christian anymore than going to to McDonald’s makes you a hamburger. Your absolutely right, just a belief in God doesnt make you superior morally! The problem is most people dont know what it means to be a true christian, most preachers dont preach or teach it anymore. Its called discipleship. It’s called being truly born again, laying down your life and living for Jesus. It’s being supernaturally baptized and filled with the Holy Spirit with supernatural signs and evidence following..and is ONLY through that spirit, and a deep personal relationship with God and Christ that one can be a true follower of Christ. AND YES persecution WILL come once a person does this. It has been tried and proven for centuries. This is why I have to disagree with your article on persecution. I DID experience it daily as a soldier in the Army 10 yrs active duty! I didnt go around like many religious pharisees and hypocrites thinking I’m better or more Holy..I didnt preach to them or tell anyone they were going to hell. I just lived a godly life and loved people and they knew where I stood and if they had questions they would come to me, sometimes secretly. I could give you hundreds of examples from literally being beat down by my own platoon mates, to lying on me, stealing from me, setting me up, backstabbing, superiors making fun of me or trying to reprimand me just for stupid things and even tried to kick me out. I didnt complain and whine, or go to the media…I just dealt with it because the bible said we would be persecuted! Why wouldnt we? If they persecuted and killed the one we follow then naturally they will persecute his followers.
The comment above is for Terry Firma founder of Moral Compass.
Are there any updates on the “Snake Charmers” article from March 2013?
I feel badly that there are people in the world who do not believe in the True God based on the evils doings of people who proclaim a belief in the Creator. Those who truly believe will do as Christ has taught us to do. Sometimes we fail in that endeavor but that is a reflection on us as human beings, not a reflection on The True God.
God is our Father and Jesus Christ our elder brother. He has shown us the Way and we strive to follow in his footsteps if we truly worship him. The only one we compare ourselves to is Jesus Christ … not our neighbor. If you are comparing yourself to your neighbor as a standard by which to live, then you have chosen the wrong role model. Which is to say that if you are comparing the people in the articles listed as examples of Christ’s way of life, you have NO idea of Christ’s way of life.
I was surprised by the results of the survey about who was the most moral as, according to the US Bureau of Prisons, the percent of Atheists in US Prisons are many times less than the percent of Atheists in the US population. this while the percent of Christians in US Prisons is the same as is their percent in the general US population
Thank you for aggreagating these. I love the one about the Alabama pastor sharing with his flock the blessed sacrament… of AIDS! LMFAO. So funny. Sad for them, but funny for me. Thank you again for brightening my day.
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